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Tuesday, September 6th, 2005
8:57 pm
[i_will_stand_up]
Hypoglycemic?
I haven't posted here in quite a while. However, I wanted to let ya'll know that I found out that I have extremely low blood sugar aka hypoglycemia. This is strongly correlated with depression. As a natural way to try and heal this I have eliminated all sugar, processed as well as fruit. I only have to give up fruit for a few months until my blood sugar noramlizes again. I am working with a doctor to do this. I will keep everyone updated on how things are going. But, maybe it would help for ya'll to get checked for this. It is often overlooked by doctors. Good luck.
Wednesday, July 20th, 2005
3:51 pm
[quelle_surprise]
A reference
I have found this site to be very helpful in outlining the alternatives to medicating for depression.
It's more thorough than many other online sources without the sometimes overwhelming details. I know it just looks like another typical commercial site at first, with the cheesy stock photographs, but it really is good information.

The information can be found on other sites (it's from healthnotes), but I think visually it is presented best here.

Let me know what people think, or if any of these had worked well for you. I'm having a very rough time of it myself.
Wednesday, July 6th, 2005
11:19 am
[jadesbrunch]
I am very interested in healing depression naturally. I am currently on 300mg of effexor a day, and wondering if anyone on this list is on meds. I think the reason I am on meds is that I have not found an alternative. I am however getting colonics done weekly so they do not hang around my system, and am doing alots detoxifying. any feedback would be great.

thank you, and looking forward to healing depression naturally,
Jadesbrunch
Thursday, June 23rd, 2005
8:22 am
[i_will_stand_up]
I really feel that my nutritionist has helped me a lot. My moods seem to be better lately. I feel that I am learning what I need to do to change my life. I feel that our diet is very closely linked with how we feel. I pray for healing for all of us, that we will all be able to find our healing paths and lead a happy and fulfilling life.
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005
9:17 pm
[helianthas]
Vitamins, 5HTP, DHEA...
Just bought a multi-vitamin "performanc" version with extra C, B vitamins and some others plus I think it has Ginko. Also bought a Calcium-Magnesium-Zinc supplement. Starting tomorrow! I hope it helps.

Has anyone ever used 5-HTP to manage their depression?
Or DHEA?

Thanks!
Monday, June 13th, 2005
12:35 pm
[i_will_stand_up]
my results from the nutritionalist...
My immune system needs a lot of help according to her tests. So, she is going to start me on something to help support my immune system. She will also be giving me an amino acid complex. She also found that I was low on many essential minerals that my body needs. The tests did not indicate any metal toxicity. So, I should be getting some of the supplements I need to take this thursday. Anyhow, I will keep everyone updated.
Friday, June 3rd, 2005
7:28 am
[i_will_stand_up]
Seeing a nutritionist
I have started seeing a nutritionist for my moods. I feel they are slowly getting better but I feel now that I have lots of mood swings where I feel fine and then I don't feel well at all. So, she is running lots of tests on me. She is checking my mineral levels and checking for heavy metals in my blood. She has run an amino acid test on me and a hormone test checking for my thyroid. By the way, the most accurate thyroid test is supposed to be the TRH test which is not one they normally run. I am still juicing and filling my body with tons of nutrients.

My nutritionists theory is that all of the constant stress that I had going on with my mom being sick with cancer for many years and then slowly dying depleted me. I never ate very healthy (loads of sugar!) and when your body is under stress you have to make sure and eat very well so that your immune system is stronger and can deal with stress better. This made a lot of sense to me as the way I would describe my depressed state for many years would be the word zombie and yes I did feel very depleted.

So now, I eat for my health and the more I do it the more I crave healthy foods. No crap gets to go into this body! Only foods that will give me life and vitality and health!

Ok, I am done. Thanks for listenning.
Thursday, June 2nd, 2005
7:09 am
[i_will_stand_up]
Good free book find...
This is a great book that the author posts as an e-book for free. It talks about the important link between nutrition and depression. The author talks about his own experience with depression for twenty years and how he was able to get better. Check it out people.

http://www.thewayup.com/ebook/ebook.htm

I hope you are all well.
Saturday, May 28th, 2005
12:52 pm
[annomalley]
Hi all,

I haven't got to the point where I can keep my depression in check via natural means yet. So, I am on Sertraline.

I was hoping some of you who have been or are on this have tips on natural ways to improve energy levels whilst on this type of medication? My pick-me-up of choice, ginseng, is contra-indicated with anti-depressants...

Thanks
Monday, May 16th, 2005
7:29 am
[i_will_stand_up]
I am still here...
So I am having more and more good days. This is a good thing. I did a juice fast about a week ago for a week and noticed some good results in more than just my mood. My hair feels healthier than it has felt ever...yesterday my dad even asked me if I was using new shampoo and I wasn't. During my juice fast I didn't take in any solid foods but let me tell you a lot of stuff that didn't need to be in my body came out...very good thing. I just don't feel so depressed the last couple of days and I feel incredibly connected to my body and can tell how foods are affecting me right away. I also have a strong desire for very healthy foods. I also got my first chiropractic adjustment last week and I feel that this has helped my back a lot, it could be helping my moods as well but I am not sure. Also, I started going to the sauna. This is supposed to be good for detoxifying the body and I heard that it can be good for getting out accutane(which is a prescription drug that has caused suicide and depression in qutie a few people). I haven't done any liver flushes in a while but might possibly do one this coming weekend. Next Monday I have an appointment with a nutritionist because I still feel like I need some guidance with my health but it can only get better from here. Anyways, depression can definately be cured I believe, it will take time, depending on how long it has been a problem. For me it has been since I was a teenager and I am now 23 and I still feel like I have a ways to go but I am enjoying things a little more every day. Depression is your body trying to let you know that something is not right and needs to be addressed either externally or internally. I would love to offer any advice to people because let me tell you before a year ago I thought I would be depressed my entire life, nothing made me feel better for like seven years. So, again, I know how bad it can be and I want to let you know that things CAN change.
Thursday, April 28th, 2005
9:33 am
[i_will_stand_up]
Vent
I feel upset because I am trying to make another appointment with my chiropractor (have only had one apt so far which was the initial visit and I really liked him, he spent two hours with me). Anyways, I really want to get started with getting my x-rays so I can start getting adjusted. However, he hasn't emailed or called me back yet. To me this is frustrating because I just want to make another appointment so I can get the ball rolling. I have already emailed him and called him so I guess I will just wait until he contacts me again. If he waits longer than next week I might look for another chiropractor, even though I really did like him a lot. By the way, he is a student at a chiropractor school and is about to graduate. I am going to the clinic they have for the public which only costs fourteen bucks a visit. So, the only way to make an appointment is with him, they don't have receptionists that you can call and make an appointment with. You have to contact the chiropractor directly.
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005
8:26 am
[i_will_stand_up]
Update
I am doing better. I feel like I still have a ways to go but Know I am on the right track. I am listenning to my body and treating it very well. I am putting only the best foods into my body. I am putting encouraging thoughts into my mind (with my hypnosis tape that I listen to before bed). I am getting massages like twice a month. God, I love this too. I am going to start seeing a chiropractor. I think this is a good idea because it helps to align the body and will further assist my body in healing. I am doing my cleanses to get the junk out of my body. I am doing a liver cleanse this weekend. My skin seems to be getting clearer and my hair feels healthier and finally is starting to grow. God, for years I felt so awful but now I am trusting my my body's ability to heal more and more. Again, I felt stuck in the same awful place for years!!! Now I feel VERY strongly that our feelings are extremely important. We need to listen to our bodies and to how we are feeling and try and understand what is going on inside of us. There is a reason for the way we are feeling and we owe it to our bodies to understand what is going on rather than silencing our bodies.

I am still feeling like there are some things that need to be resolved. I feel like I still have unresolved issues with my mom dying when I was 15. I feel as if this has made me cold now. I think it has gotten better some but still feel as if I have a ways to go. Cleansing is supposed to help with this. Especially liver cleansing is supposed to help with emotions. Anyways, I will continue to update everyone!
Monday, April 25th, 2005
11:16 pm
[helianthas]
Biofeedback/Neurofeedback
Does anyone have any experience with biofeedback or neurofeedback for depression/anxiety (or anything else, for that matter)?

Any info/personal accounts would be great!


(x-posted to bipolar_nomeds, halls_of_psyche, heal_depression)
Saturday, April 23rd, 2005
7:43 pm
[lifetimesugar]
effexor withdrawal step 2
x-posted.

hey folks. so, i was hoping someone in here might be able to help me out again. i'm finally past all the dizziness and that's a relief, but what i'm going through now is equally bad. i don't totally know how to describe it, but basically i'm just hardcore grumpy all</> the time. like, beyond irritable, sensitive, unfriendly, and just grumpy. there's no real relief from this and it's been going on for about a week now. i get so irritable about everything (i had to put so much effort into not literally screaming at a girl in my class because of the sound of her vibrating cell phone), i feel explosive anger with anything remotely frustrating, and i'm snapping at everyone around me. this is not normal for me at all. is this part of effexor withdrawal? does it go away? what can i do? i've tried most of the standard relaxing things - taking baths, getting enough sleep, drinking tea, etc. and none of it has really made that much of a difference. have any of you gone through this? i'd love for someone to tell me it's just a standard part of withdrawal and it goes away quickly, but i'm starting to fear i've just turned into a jaded old asshole with no patience for anyone. so, anyways, i just thought i'd check in and see if anyone had any ideas. thanks.
Friday, April 22nd, 2005
10:43 pm
[1drowned]
Salvia Divinorum
i only heard of this herb last fall... even though my brother was growing it here last year.(but we never talk... so i guess i just never noticed). i've read a lot of info on using this herb as an anti-depressant and i've met people who have gotten over their depression with this plant. i have'nt tried it yet, so i don't know how to describe it's effects. my friends who have tried it make it sound like they had visions. one friend thought she was a goldfish flopping on the ground, and a giant angel reached down, picked her up and put her in a fresh bowl of water. of everyone i've talked to, they all seem to have an extreme mind-bending experience. it supposedly only lasts for a very short period of time(you have to be careful how much you take, ofcourse). it can be a really intense experience... but it all depend how you take it. straight leaf, extracts. i know for years i had a bit of a phobia about taking drugs. i never wanted to get high, it made me really nervous and anxious... and i know a lot of other people are like that too. ... so this might not work for you. i read one write up from a girl who said she would feel pretty anxious while she was high... but for days afterwards she would feel much less depressed and moody, and it really seemed to balance her out.
try doing a google search. there's lots of info out there. it's perfectly legal. if you don't live in a city where it might be available there are MANY companies that ship it. Do a lot of research first. make sure you know how much to use, and how to use it. it's best to have someone with you (who's supportive) for the first time trying it. and try to be in a good frame of mind. drink some skullcap tea, and do a meditation first. clear your mind from all your anxieties before hand... and start with the smallest amount.
i don't think i'll try it till i'm able to go camping or up to hornby. i don't like this house... i want to do it in an environment where i feel at ease.

maybe this does'nt appeal to anyone... but i just thought i'd throw it out there.

i hope these links work, if not, do your own searches.
anti-depressant info:
http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?A=ShowDoc1&ID=1316
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v13n1/13118han.html

general info:
http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html
http://www.salvia-divinorum.com/
Thursday, April 21st, 2005
8:25 am
[i_will_stand_up]
Sample of some things I said in my tape!
"You have a future before you with countless possibilities and opportunities"

"You are supporting your body's ability to heal by what you put into your body"

"You will not allow what happened in your past to keep you from enjoying what joys today holds"

"laughter is healing and healthy"

"You never lost the ability to love or to have happinness these are both qualities that are rooted deeply into your being"

"Every day is new with exciting adventures to be had"

"It is important to live each day to the fullest"

"It is important to enjoy and appreciate the people that are in your life"

"You are unique and have very special qualities to offer to this world in a way that nobody else can"
Wednesday, April 20th, 2005
11:17 am
[ashliana]
Some alternative aids for depression and anxiety: Ashwagandha and Rhodiola Rosea
Two adaptogens — substances that nonspecifically increases the resistance of an organism and but do not disturb normal biological
parameters.

Ashwagandha:
    -"A growing body of clinical evidence reveals that emotional disturbances like anxiety, depression and chronic stress may lead to distinct physiological changes in the body which are believed to lower immune system response. The results of recent laboratory studies suggest that, in addition to its mood-stabilizing characteristics, Ashwagandha Root also exhibits immuno-stimulatory effects. The withanolide, Withaferin-A, plays a key role in Ashwagandha's ability to enhance memory and cognition by way of the Acetylcholine neurotransmitter pathways in the brain. It is thought that all of the active glycowithanolides in Ashwagandha work together to provide a synergistic effect on the Central Nervous System (CNS), helping to stabilize mood in clinical conditions of stress, anxiety and depression."


The linked page includes more information, as well as links to clinical research studies on it.
One study found that in rats, ashwagandha produce anxiety-reducing effects most similar to lorazepam, and antidepressent effects most similar to imapramine.

Rhodiola Rosea:
    -"The systematic study of the pharmacological effects of R. rosea, begun in 1965, found that small and
    medium doses had a simulating effect, such as lengthening the time mice swim and remain on vertical perches to the limit of their abilities. In contrast,
    larger doses were found to have more sedative effects. Small doses increased the bioelectrical activity of the brain, presumably by direct effects on the
    brainstem ascending and descending reticular formation. Further studies showed that medium range doses, unlike tranquilizers, enhanced the development of conditioned avoidance reflexes in rats and facilitated learning based on emotionally positive reinforcement. Overall, in small and medium doses, R. rosea stimulated norepinephrine (NE), dopamine (DA), serotonin (5-HT), and nicotinic cholinergic effects in the central nervous system (CNS). It also enhanced the
    effects of these neurotransmitters on the brain by increasing the permeability of the blood brain barrier to precursors of DA and 5-HT."

    -"R. rosea may affect emotional tone by influencing neurotransmitter monoamine levels (NE, DA, 5-HT) in nerve tracts involved in the regulation of mood, anxiety, and emotion in the amygdala, hippocampus, hypothalamus, and midbrain. The stimulation of nicotinic cholinergic activity in the emotional circuits of the limbic system (in the temporal lobe) may also contribute to these effects. Alterations in monoamine levels underlie this complex spectrum of psychotropic activity: stimulating, tranquilizing, anti-stress, and antidepressant."

(there's a WHOLE lot more info at the above linked site)

Rhodiola rosea really seems to be some sort of magic chemical, as it has been shown to help practically everything... mood, focus, mental and physical endurance, is an anti-oxident/anti-carcinogen, is cardioprotective, helps the function of the endocrine and reproductive systems (ie. increased thyroid function without causing hyperthyroidism, made the thymus and adrenal glands function more efficiently, aided egg maturation, etc etc...), reduces stress, and more. heh.


I have also read on neurochem forums about how these two seem to work quite nicely together. It's important to not take too much rhodiola rosea, though, because its benefits decrease. I think an ideal dose is maxed at around 350mg 1-2x a day. But 150mg 1-2x a day can have great positive effects as well.

Also -- I know people who take rhodiola rosea and see great results (one said it was just as good as zoloft w/o the bad side effects). I'm going to buy some ashwagandha today or tomorrow and see how it goes.

Current Mood: geeky
7:44 am
[i_will_stand_up]
Hypnosis tape
I am really excited about this hypnosis tape that I made! I think it is going to make a real differene and assist me in my healing. I am especially excited because it doesn't cost me all of my money, only the dollar that I paid for the tape!
Tuesday, April 19th, 2005
3:10 pm
[i_will_stand_up]
Lately I am having a hard time. I feel yucky inside. I really would love to go up to Minneapolis to the Health Recovery Center. The woman that runs the place has her phd in nutrition and wrote a book called depression free, naturally. her book is what turned me on to all of the alternatives to drugs. Anyhow, she says that depression is traced to deficiencies in the body of vitamins, etc. If I did this it would be my money though and I know insurance wouldn't cover it, so I have to be really sure if that is what I want to do. I know there are places around here that I could go to but they specialize in this particularly at the health recovery center and I really love the book. I am torn right now trying to figure out what to do. Should I continue with my cleansings? I do think that they are a good thing but I am not feeling a lot better and wonder if I have lots of nutritional deficiencies. I am considering going to a chiropractor as well. Should I do this? There are so many different theories out there...it is confusing. Should I try acupuncture? I am thinking about getting some sort of hypnotic tape as well to help and change my thinking patterns. Maybe I can make my own hypnotic tape. I guess I can fight this thing at every angle.

I do know what I am going to continue with, though, my diet and with getting massages. The massages feel very good to me and I feel are very healthy. I just need to support my body as much as I possibly can.
3:17 am
[quelle_surprise]
alienation
Has anyone else developed a complex from all the unanswered comments and so on? I'm thinking of public posts, but it applies to personal journals too.

This didn't need to be posted in heal_depression, and the moderator is certainly free to delete it.
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